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Dave Bottoms
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 9:20 AM Post subject: Clearing Up Raymond Wand's Accusations |
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Hi All,
Firstly, sorry for stirring the pot once again, but I felt the need to
clear up some of wand's ridiculous and desperate lies. Please review
the following list of wand quotes. I promise I won't be following or responding to this thread.
Wand wrote:
We are all now well versed what my website says, and I stand by it and
we all know that you are holding yourself out as qualified on your
website too even though you are not practicing contrary to the rules.
Wand wrote:
Why are YOU an Assoc. Member when you are not practicing? YOU are
not a full time inspector, nor are you part-time, this is misleading
and OAHI is misleading the public into thinking YOU are qualified when
you are not as YOU have not met the requirements. That is a fact and it
is a fact YOU claim to be a full-time inspector as per your website.
Wand wrote:
I hope customers who may entertain hiring Mr. Bottoms think twice
before hiring someone who is misrepresenting himself as a full time
inspector and not fully qualified.
Wand wrote:
How come you are misrepresenting yourself on your website? Questions re the above four quotes:
1. Can you provide evidence that I am not practicing?
2. Can you provide evidence that the OAHI rules dictate that members must be practicing?
3. Can you provide evidence that I am not a full- or part-time inspector?
4. Can you show where I am misleading the public in this regard?
5. Can you show where I have not met the Associate Member requirements?
6. Can you show where I claim to be a full time inspector on my web site?
7. Can you explain why I am listed on OAHI's website as an Associate Member, if I am not qualified, as you suggest?
Mr Wand wrote:
If I had a criminal record like yours I would be ashamed. Question: Can you provide evidence of of my alleged criminal record?
Mr Wand wrote:
When are you checking yourself into the substance abuse clinic? Question: Can you provide evidence of my alleged substance abuse?
In other words, wand is lying yet again in an effort to draw me
back into the pissing match and distract others from the fact that it
is he who is misrepresenting himself on his website.
For the record: I am fully
qualified as an Associate Member. I am a practicing home inspector,
part-time. Nowhere on my web site do I claim to be a full-time home
inspector. Nowhere on my web site do I misrepresent my credentials. I
do not have a criminal record of any kind. I am not a substance abuser
(I hardly drink and don't even smoke). I have obtained written
permission from OAHI to remain an Associate Member past the three year
limit, due to extenuating circumstances.
That's it for now. And to reiterate, I will not be following or responding to this thread.
D.
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Elaine Schlameelitis
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 9:28 AM Post subject: |
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Dave, it is simple....
Raymond is really a world famous writer of Home Inspection fiction...
and you are his latest character of demise...

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eporter
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 10:21 AM Post subject: |
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Raymond lives in screwed up little bubble where he is perfect and everyone else is scum.
People like him get their "jollies" by putting down others to make
themselves look good. Quite pathetic really. I don't know that I have
ever seen him write anything of any substance, or anything that is
positive or constructive in nature.
In other words, he IS the perfect NACHI clown.-- ------------------------------------------------
"Inspecting this home like I'm buying it myself."
Ed Porter
Cornerstone Home Inspection Services, Inc.
Grand Haven, MI
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Carla Horne Grand View Home Inspections
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 10:39 AM Post subject: |
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first the subject line as I have said before makes NACHI look
like a bunch of highschool idiots(maybe that's your motive)
second there is an appology for stirring the pot again but
then proceed to do it anyway, why appologize just don't do it!
If I were a potential client surfing our website and stumbled
onto half of this MB I would move on
come on guys!! grow up
Carla
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John Onofrey Top 2 Bottom Real Estate Inspectors
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Carla,
I agree with you but these are all non-members. I doubt they care about how this makes NACHI look.-- Inspection Nirvana!
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Carla Horne Grand View Home Inspections
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 10:53 AM Post subject: |
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Hi John,
Maybe only members should be able to post here!?
or we should have a moderator that can x them as
they start.
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John Onofrey Top 2 Bottom Real Estate Inspectors
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 10:56 AM Post subject: |
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| Yep. -- Inspection Nirvana!
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A. Dan Leleika A-Team Home Inspections
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 12:00 PM Post subject: |
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Hi John,
Maybe only members should be able to post here!?
or we should have a moderator that can x them as
they start. |
Yep...It is way out of control!-- A. Dan Leleika
www.a-teamhomeinspections.com
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Roy Cooke Roys Home Inspection
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 12:58 PM Post subject: |
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| eporter wrote: |
Raymond lives in screwed up little bubble where he is perfect and everyone else is scum.
People like him get their "jollies" by putting down others to make
themselves look good. Quite pathetic really. I don't know that I have
ever seen him write anything of any substance, or anything that is
positive or constructive in nature.
In other words, he IS the perfect NACHI clown. |
So strange you say things about Raymond. He and others have been provoked by Dave Bottoms .
Dave only puts down NACHI and those who support NACHI .
Dave has never helped one Inspector on the NACHI site.
Raymond has only been trying to protect himself against wrongfully posting by Dave.
Raymond has helped many on the NACHI site.
Yes I am a friend of Raymond and he does not tell lies .
Raymond tries to not edit his posts or remove them he leaves them for others to read.
Dave seldom leaves his post he likes to attack then run away and hide.
He regularly says I am not going to make any more posts and back he comes.
Below is one of Daves many post's from another board ( He is a moderator on )
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viewtopic.php?t=6296
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Bottoms
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:05 PM
Subject: [Canuck HI] RE: Disappointment
Personally, I think the worst harm CAHPI could bring onto itself would
be to lend legitimacy to NACHI by entering into some form of
relationship. We should learn from our ASHI counterparts who refuse to
have anything to do with NACHI. That's just my opinion, of course. Your
mileage may vary.
Here's something interesting: Y'all might want to cast your votes. http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/viewtopic.php?t=6296
Dave Bottoms
Inspectra -- The Home Inspection Company Ltd.
Scarborough, ON
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Cooke [mailto:roycooke@sympatico.ca]
Sent: August 28, 2004 2:33 PM
To: inspectra@sympatico.ca
Subject: [Canuck HI] Disapointment
Bill any letters sent to you on any of the lists , I feel is they
are not meant to be directed at you . It is many members are so
disappointed in the direction that the home inspection industry (
Especially Ontario ) is going that they are shoot darts at any person
or group. It is not only up and coming inspectors it is some who have
been around for ever . It is not getting the results from our leaders
over the years that have finally come to a boiling point. Please try
not to take it personally it is you are a Name that many recognize .
I do agree in taking a rest for a while to see if all the thoughts and complaints can bear fruit.
I do also feel NACHI is a completely different organization to what we have in Canada .
I also feel they can compliment each other . To close the door to each other could do us all harm.
I also feel most complaints about OAHI have a lot of merit and should
be looked at by or BOD. Why do so many have so many complaints . I feel
only 10% have the courage to speak out so if there is 15 complaints
this could mean 150 are very disappointed
Lets hope this can soon come to a satisfactory end for us all . Thanks for being there we all need you.
Your Eastern Ont Buddy Roy Cooke sr Brighton ont
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Elaine Schlameelitis is really Gil Strachan He has many different names .
He also likes to feed Dave Information so Dave can shoot the Darts-- Roy Cooke Sr.
http://Royshomeinspection.com
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rwand
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 1:47 PM Post subject: |
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Hey Bottoms
I am still waiting for you to answer my earlier questions? You answer first.
As to your criminal record you have uttered threats, you are the one
who has sent foul private emails, you are the one who can't digest the
law, which has been provided repeatedly, your the one who is non
practicing, and misrepresenting your credentials, what proof do you
have that you are actively inspecting? Now if you could shut up and
stop embarrassing yourself with your non factual posts.
As to Mr. Porter you certainly could use a brushing up on your
ethical behaviour so don't preach to me. It is obvious you're not to
skilled in truth along with Mr. Bottoms. Try and keep up with facts I
know its difficult but try.
Your move Ace.
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON-- The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Elaine Schlameelitis
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Posted: Jul 28, 2005 5:28 PM Post subject: |
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We have our fingers crossed for THEIR sake that they indeed DO!

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Roy Cooke Roys Home Inspection
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Posted: Jul 29, 2005 7:37 AM Post subject: |
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First of Dave Bottoms is not trying to clear up.
Clearing Up Raymond Wand's Accusations.
Dave Bottoms is just one step short of being a TERRORIST.
Many good intelligent members no longer contribute to any post he attacks proving Intimidation works for him.
He continues to give false information and continually tells lies
He is using INTIMIDATION and COERCION to try and control any one who tries to give information out that he does not agree with.
He is not an asset to the Home inspection industry and I have asked for him to be stopped from his actions.
He has not once added any good or helpful information to the NACHI site.
The sooner he is brought under control and uses common decency the better it will be for all
http://www.coping.org/control/intimid.htm#What-- Roy Cooke Sr.
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rwand
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Dave Bottoms
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Posted: Jul 29, 2005 8:50 AM Post subject: |
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| rcooke wrote: |
First of Dave Bottoms is not trying to clear up.
Clearing Up Raymond Wand's Accusations.
Dave Bottoms is just one step short of being a TERRORIST.
Many good intelligent members no longer contribute to any post he attacks proving Intimidation works for him.
He continues to give false information and continually tells lies
He is using INTIMIDATION and COERCION to try and control any one who tries to give information out that he does not agree with.
He is not an asset to the Home inspection industry and I have asked for him to be stopped from his actions.
He has not once added any good or helpful information to the NACHI site.
The sooner he is brought under control and uses common decency the better it will be for all |
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know I said I wouldn't reply to this thread, but when someone's having
an obvious mental breakdown, I think it is important to intervene and
try to help them.
Lets Help Roy Kook Sr Get Over OAHI and CAHPI:
PSYCHOLOGICAL ADDICTION:
Love creates and evokes many different emotions in us. Basically the
love of OAHI and CAHPI makes us feel safe, protected from the world,
trusted, full of joy, and complete. For the love addict like Roy Kook
Sr these feelings create a feeling of "high". It alters their moods,
creates in them an euphoria, makes them feel on top of the world. It
far surpasses simple comfort but becomes a security blanket. It
surpasses joyfulness and becomes a feeling of intoxification. When
these feelings are removed the "addict" will go to any length to get
them back. The addiction is transferred to the thing that gave it to
them, the ex, the relationship, OAHI, CAHPI, or being in love itself.
Life without this person, relationship, or professional HI association
etc., is not worth living (at least from the addict's -- i.e. Roy Kook
Sr -- point of view). It doesn't matter to them that their "fix" is
participating or not, they desperately need to regain the love. The
need of regaining this love precludes any other need. The addict is
often obsessed with finding the world in one lover, OAHI and CAHPI.
They quickly attach themselves to the object of their love, OAHI and
CAHPI, often taking on the identity of their romance interest.
Some common characteristics of love/people/relationship addiction:
*Consuming or obsessive thoughts of the object of your love, OAHI and CAHPI
*Avoidance of the loss of the love of OAHI and CAHPI
*Seeking to avoid rejection or abandonment by OAHI and CAHPI at all cost
*Manipulation to regain the love of OAHI and CAHPI
*Extreme dependency on the love of OAHI and CAHPI
*Perceives love and relationship as a basic human need
*Sense of worthlessness without a relationship or partner
*Feelings of not being whole outside of a relationship
*Extremely accepting of abuse, often putting rational explanations to irrational treatment from another
*Defining "wants" as "needs"
*Refusal to acknowledge these as a problem Extremely
fearful of change in–or the loss of–their addictive fix with OAHI and
CAHPI, the love addict will go to any level to regain their lost love.
This desperate need for a fix consumes the addict's every moment,
shaking their security, creating obsessive thoughts of their love for
OAHI and CAHPI, and creating emotional scheming on the part of the
addict.
For most individuals after the loss of a relationship they go through a
period of mourning but eventually resume normal lives and form new
bonds. However, for the love addict like Roy Kook Sr, the issues take
on pathological variations of the grieving process, and making future
bonding more difficult. An anxious type of attachment to a relationship
or person or OAHI and CAHPI, and a history of compulsive care-taking of
that relationship or person may result in chronic grief when facing the
loss of that attachment. Love addicts like Roy Kook Sr often turn into
stalkers, or resort to extreme measures of suicidal thoughts or
threats.
If you discover that any of this rings true to you, Roy, then I strongly urge you to seek professional assistance.
What is an addiction? An addiction is any activity or substance we
repeatedly crave to experience. Any fixation for which we are willing
to pay any price necessary to receive. People such as Roy Kook Sr have
sacrificed everything for their addictions. Pride, dignity, families,
jobs, friends, home, and even their own lives. Love
and relationship addicts continue their obsessive need for the
relationship long after it is clear that the relationship is over and
that the price they are paying for their obsession is that of
themselves and their families own happiness and health. An
individual like Roy Kook Sr who has lost sleep, jobs, friends, personal
freedom, health, life's meaning, joyfulness, happiness, contentment,
and a sense of self-worth because of the removal of a relationship, or
love object, from their lives, but is unwilling to accept their
addiction, or unwilling to change, should seek professional help.
An addict doesn't succumb to the addiction for any other reason than
the intense craving for it. It is not the source of their addiction
that they need, it's the satisfying of the intense cravings that
motivates him.
The compulsive urges or craving for their lost relationships can create
chaos, tension, anticipation and anxiety in their everyday lives. The
pleasures of a fix can be diverse. The love, relationship, or object of
their love can create a positive mood or disguise a negative one. They
feel that only through love of OAHI and CAHPI will they not feel
stressed, anxious, angry, unwanted, unloved, unneeded, undesirable,
unworthy, depressed, bored, lonely, afraid, etc.
If you are obsessing over the loss of a relationship, such as Roy Kook
Sr is, and it is causing you loss of your every day joy, pleasure, and
happiness, you may be addicted. If you are preoccupied with an ex, a relationship, OAHI, CAHPI or finding and feeling love, you may be addicted.
If this loss has made you feel without self-respect, or if you tend to
minimize its effect or hold on you, you may be an addict in denial.
I strongly suggest you buy and read
these two books as a start, Roy. Then, commit yourself to a good mental
facility that can help you get over OAHI and get over me. You obsessive
stalking is more than a little creepy and disturbing.
Please Roy, this is no joke. You seriously need help.
D.
P.S. Raymond, still waiting for you to prove you are not a liar by
answering to your allegations posted above. The fact that you can't
answer them only proves that once again you are a liar.
Here's a link to an article definitely written just for you:
The Truth About A Child's Compulsive Lying
http://webhome.idirect.com/~readon/lies.html
Good luck with that. 
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